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Premium gas vs. regular: What’s really better for your car? (CBC Marketplace)


♪ [theme]>>Tom Harrington:This week onmarketplace… [gas pump bell]getting hosed at the pumps.>>Who do we trust?>>Tom:Are we being misledinto spending millionswe don’t have to?>>Which gas is better for my car?>>Supreme.>>Tom:Wasting money on gasmost of our cars don’t need.Oil companies are misleading drivers?>>Absolutely!>>Tom:We put Premium gasto the test, and you won’tbelieve what we find.>>It’s actually hurting the environment!>>Why are they selling people a kind of gas that they don’t need? ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪>>Tom:We’re cruisingalong the back roadsof Southwestern Ontario.It’s themarketplacegas challenge.Premium versus Regular.Which one will come out on top?Stay tuned for the lowdownon high octane.♪ ♪No matter what youput in your tank,the price across the countryis high, too.And for Premium, well,you pay a premium.As much as 15 cents moreper litre than Regular.We’re at a gas stationin Toronto’s East End.How are you doing? Can I ask you a couple of questions?Gauging your gas-buying habits.What do you know about Premium gas?>>I think it’s better for your motor?>>It’s supposed to make it run better, right?>>It burns cleaner.>>It’s supposed to be better for your car in terms of, I don’t know, some additives or something that they put into it. [♪]>>Tom:Ads like this seemto drive that home.[♪]>>Announcer:Shell V-Power.Our most advanced fuel ever.>>Tom:Making the pitch thatPremium’s better for your car.>>Announcer:Nitrogen-enrichedfor optimum performance,maximum protection.>>Tom:Now, it’s true thatsome car-makers recommendputting Premium fuelin their high-end models,but what about most of uswho drive regular cars?Do you ever buy Premium gas?>>Sometimes.>>In my other car, I did.>>Once in a while, I do like to because they say it’s better for the car. You know?>>Tom: Who says?>>Uh, I don’t know! I guess just other people that have worked at the gas stations and stuff have told me over the years.>>It’s better quality, I think. This is what they say.>>Tom: Did it require Premium?>>No, but I mean, it’s supposed to be better for the car, right?>>It’s a treat. If I’ve got extra money, I think, okay, I’ll put the Premium in today. [chanting]>>Tom:Treating body and mindwith care is at the centreof Karuna Brandy’s life.>>Sending the breath into the joints.>>Tom:She teaches yoga out ofher home in East-End Toronto.>>So, we’re actually increasing the lubrication here.>>Tom:A believer in theholistic approach, even whenit comes to buying gas.>>I’m so not the right person to ask.>>Tom:As we learn when wefirst meet her at the pumps,putting higher octanegas into her Honda Civic.So, why?>>Because I get better gas mileage with my car.>>Tom: On the higher–?>>On the higher octane.>>Tom: Well, what have you heard about Premium gas?>>I’m a yogi eco-person. So, in my mind– I don’t know if it’s true or not, but in my mind, I believe it’s true that if I buy the higher-grade gas, it burns cleaner. [♪]>>Tom:Is she right?We want to find out ifPremium gas really does allthose wonderful things.So, we’re doing three testswith a regular car.Does it run better, go farther,burn cleaner with Premium?The choice for our firstexperiment is Shell’sPremium V-Power.We’re using this 2013Chevrolet Cruze,one of the best-sellingpassenger cars in Canada.And our lab, if you like,is the Canadian Automotiveand Trucking Institutein Cambridge, Ontario.Marty Stanfel is runningour test.He’s been an instructor herefor more than 20 years.How’d I do?>>That’s great.>>Tom: Okay, thanks. Hey, Marty, Tom Harrington.>>Hi, Tom, how are you?>>Tom: Thanks for helping us out today.>>You’re more than welcome.>>Tom: Okay. Let’s see, we’re testing Premium versus Regular gas?>>That’s right.>>What will this machine do?>>What this machine is going to do, is we’re going to measure the performance of the car by measuring the horsepower and the torque and see if there’s any difference between Regular fuel and Premium fuel.>>Tom: So, what do you need me to do?>>I’m going to strap down the car and then I need you to do 50 kilometres an hour.>>Tom: Okay.>>And put on the cruise control, and we’ll get some numbers here.>>Tom: Great. Let’s do that. [♪] >>Tom:Our first testis looking at performance.Does the engine run betteron Premium?We start by running theChevy Cruze on Regular gas.What is this telling us about how the engine’s performing on Regular gas?>>What it’s telling us right now is that this is taking this amount of horsepower to make these wheels turn, and using up that much fuel.>>Tom:We have our readingwith the Regular.Time to switch over nowto the Premium fuel.Okay, I was going to say fill ‘er up, but I think you have to empty it.>>Good point.>>Tom: I’ve never done that before.So, we drain the Regular gas.And put in theShell V-Power Premium.We have Premium gas in the car now, so do you expect any of those numbers to change?>>I’m thinking this number here is going to drop. I’m not too sure about this number, but I’m thinking this number here is going to come in at a lower number.>>Tom: And if it’s a lower number, that means what?>>That means that the engine is running more proficiently and doesn’t need as much power to make it run the same speed.>>Tom: Okay.>>Because of the high test fuel. [car accelerating]>>Tom: So, what are we seeing?>>We’re seeing the same numbers as before. That’s very interesting.>>Tom: What do you make of it? Shouldn’t the Premium be lower number?>>You would think.>>Tom: What does that tell you?>>I think what’s happening here with the Premium fuel running through here, the computer of the car is compensating for that. And it’s going to give you the same numbers because that’s what that engine was designed to do. So, proficiency and efficiency of the car, by putting in Premium or its desired Regular octane, it’s negligible, you won’t see a difference.>>Tom:That’s right.Our test shows our regular cardoes not run better on Premium.[♪]Car talk has beenMark Whinton’s secondlanguage since he was a boy.Today, he’s an automotiveteacher and writes a blogon the car industry.Mark’s also an expertwitness on car cases inOntario Superior Court.What’s your recommendation to people about what gas to use?>>Regular. Always.>>Tom: One of the things about Premium is that it makes your engine perform better. True or false?>>No. That’s false.>>Tom: How many would even notice the difference between the two?>>Nobody. I mean, you could blindfold me, I couldn’t tell the difference. [laughs]>>Tom:We ask Mark to puthis mileage where his mouth is.He gets the keys to the ChevyCruze for our second test.We want to see if our car getsbetter mileage on Premium.This time, we’re usingEsso Supreme.>>Set trip to zero. Resetting gas… and off we go. I expect the result to be very, very close; within a half a litre per 100 kilometres. And stop. Five litres. Full stop. 4.8 litres.>>Tell me about the results, based on what you’re seeing?>>I don’t see any difference at all. Any variance you would get would be due to just the testing variance, just between the equipment itself, its tolerances, the car itself, its tolerances. That’s it. You’re not seeing any real-world difference.>>Tom: Is there any benefit at all to putting Premium in a regular car?>>No, none whatsoever. I don’t know how to put it any plainer than that. [laughs]>>Tom:And Mark doesn’tjust talk the talk.He drives the drive.Remember that muscle carhe likes to take for a spinon a nice day?Well, GM may recommendPremium, but Mark putsRegular in the tank.>>If I was going to go to, say, a racetrack or something, definitely I would put Premium in the car. But just driving around to and fro? Don’t need it, not required.>>Tom: They talk about the idea the engine knocks if you’re not putting in the right kind of gas. Have you ever noticed anything like that with your ‘vette?>>No. Modern cars have a lot of engine management technology that tunes the car while you drive. So, if you put in a Regular grade fuel and the engine does knock, before you hear it, the engine will change the timing and get rid of the knock.>>Tom: How much money have you saved, do you think?>>Oh, about 10 bucks a fill-up.>>Tom:Mark isn’ta lone wolf on this.None other than the U.S.government agrees with him.The Federal Trade Commission,the FTC, says using a higheroctane gas than your owner’smanual recommends, “won’t makeyour car perform better,go faster, get better mileage,or run cleaner.”And, “Unless your engineis knocking…is a waste of money.”Back at the gas station,how will car owners react?>>Oh, really? I’d be surprised, but not.>>So it shouldn’t be 15 cents more a litre, right?>>It’s a scam. [laughs] That they’re getting us with the thinking that it’s better for our cars and really it’s not.>>Tom: Do you think gas stations, oil companies, are misleading drivers about Premium gas?>>I think so. Oh, yeah, absolutely!>>Tom:In the U.S., the FTCsays the same thing.It’s gone after some companiesfor misleading advertising.Esso’s parent company, Exxon,agreed to run new commercialsafter giving driversin the U.S. the wrongimpression about Premium.So, what’s the salespitch here?We’re taking our hidden camerasto gas stations across Canada,and find out there’sa premium on accuracy.>>This one is 87 per cent clean. This is 89 per cent clean. This is 91 per cent clean. [♪] ♪ [theme]>>Tom:We’re pulling up to thepumps and putting claims aboutPremium gas to the test.The American governmentand many experts are warningdrivers not to wastetheir money on Premium.So, we take our hidden camerasto gas stations in Halifax,Toronto, and Vancouver.Will they make the pitchfor Premium in a regular car?>>What would you recommend? Should I get the Premium or the Regular?>>Tom:Some seem to givethe correct advice.>>I think so, Regular.>>In this?>>Yeah?>>You don’t need it.>>Tom:But others sayPremium is king.>>Should I get Regular or Premium?>>Premium, sir.>>Premium’s better?>>This car need a Premium, yeah.>>Which gas is better for my car?>>That is the… Supreme.>>Tom:And one of the reasonsthey’re telling us to gowith Premium over Regular?>>You’re going to notice more gas mileage.>>You will know the difference by your mileage.>>You can get more mileage out of this gas.>>Tom:Better mileage,in a car that doesn’t need it,and a claim experts sayis simply not true.The oil companiespump up another claimabout Premium gas.>>It keeps the engine clean so you don’t have to buy all those cleaners.>>If you want to be a little on the safer side, take 89.>>What will that do, though?>>It’s a little more cleaner. This one is 87 per cent clean. This is 89 per cent clean. This is 91 per cent clean.>>Tom:Clean can meanall kinds of things.>>Announcer:Essoscientists have engineeredgasoline on the molecular levelto help clean up intake valvesand help deliverbetter fuel economy.>>Tom:But to the oilcompanies, clean is allabout the detergentsthey put in their gas.>>With 20 per cent more cleaning agents than before…>>Tom:And they sell itlike other people selllaundry soap.>>[whispers] No other gasoline protects your engine better.>>Tom:Petro Canada goesso far as to callits gas “RegularClean”and “SuperClean”.Our expert, Mark Whinton,says, time to come cleanon this one.>>I’ve noticed that they’re making everybody think their engines are dirty and they need to be cleaned, and that if you clean them, you’ll get better performance and things. You know, engine’s today stay pretty clean. I mean, it’s a bit of a fallacy to think, oh, we have, you know, hundreds of thousands of engines running around, they’re all gunked up that need cleaning! It’s simply not the case. And all the other gases, their regular gases, have detergents as well, as mandated by law.>>Tom:The FTC agreeson that one, too,“high octane gasolinedoes not outperform Regularoctane in preventing enginedeposits from forming,in removing them, or incleaning your car’s engine.In fact, the U.S.Environmental ProtectionAgency requires that alloctane grades of all brandsof gasoline contain enginecleaning detergent additives.”We have the same rulesfor Canadian gas.There’s another Premium promisethat you hearfrom the oil companies;that Premium gas is kinder andgentler for the environment.>>This is the heal-all, so it heals on all levels. Hi, baby.>>Tom:Remember our yogainstructor?Karuna Brandyelieves in tending toand protecting the Earth.So, even though Hondarecommends Regular, Karunaputs in Premium gas becauseshe believes it causesless pollution.Time to clear the air.♪ ♪Our third and final testis on emissions.We’re back at the CanadianAutomotive and TruckingInstitute, where Marty Stanfelgets a readingwith Regular gas.>>You’ll notice here we’re only having six parts per million of hydrocarbons, that’s a very clean car.>>The overall tells us what?>>This tells us that this is a very clean-running gas, with a clean-running car. >>Tom:Now, out withthe Regular and inwith Shell V-Power Premium. Any difference to be expected?>>Again, I’m hoping to see lower numbers here now because the Premium fuel is supposed to be a cleaner-burning fuel.>>Tom:I step on the gas.And what do the readingssay this time?>>The hydrocarbons are up a little, which means there’s unburned fuel coming out of the tailpipe because we’re compensating, and the Premium fuel’s not getting used up like it should in a Premium-fuelled car. So, therefore, it’s actually hurting the environment. Whether or not you’re cleaning your valves and cleaning the inside of the engine, I couldn’t say that’s true. But I think you are hurting more of the environment now by running the Premium fuel in a Regular-fuelled car.>>Tom:We show the testresults to Karuna.So, what do you think of that?>>I’m speechless. Why I think I’m doing this is because of the opposite of that, thinking that I’m being cleaner as a driver. And then I have a question, because why are the oil companies making these different grades of gas, and is it an education for us, as consumers? And who do we trust?>>Tom:Time to find out.♪ ♪We’re taking our test carto each of the big threegas stations.Will they tell usto put in Premium?>>What would you recommend we put in?>>Tom:And we askthe companies, why so muchfiction at the pump?>>Companies are not putting these millions of dollars into research just for the fun of it. It is actually–>>Tom: Well, they’re trying to make money. ♪ ♪ ♪ [theme]>>Tom:Ourmarketplacegaschallenge shows when we putPremium gas into ourChevy Cruze, it does notperform better, does not getbetter mileage, and does notreduce emissions.In fact, it creates more.So, we decide to take our testcar to each of the threebig gas station chainsto see if they’ll recommendPremium or Regular.First up, Shell…>>Hi, how are you?>>Hi, there. What would you recommend we put in?>>Regular.>>Regular?>>Yeah!>>This attendant givesus the correct advice…And when we ask aboutthe Premium V-Power?>>No, no. This car don’t need V-Power.>>Oh, okay.>>This is GM car. It’s Regular.>>Tom:Up next,it’s Esso’s turn…>>Which would you recommend, Premium or Regular?>>For this car? You can put the Medium.>>So, it’s worth it, the extra money?>>For me, I recommend you put Supreme.>>What would it do?>>That’s, like, you can drive like more mileage on there. It’s going to clean all the injections and everything. Supreme is good.>>Tom:So, in goes the moreexpensive Supreme, into a carthat doesn’t needit.Finally, we take ourtest car to Petro Canada…>>What would you recommend we put in? What kind of gas?>>Ultra 94.>>But it costs so much more. How come?>>Yeah, I know, because it’s the best.>>Tom:We ask Petro Canada,Esso, and Shellfor on-camera interviews.They decline our offer.We bring our testcar to Montrealto meet the man who representsthe oil companies.Mr. Montreuil?>>Yes.>>Tom Harrington frommarketplace.>>Very pleased to meet you.>>Tom:Carol Montreuilis Vice-President of TheCanadian Fuels Association.Want to start with a simple question.>>Yes?>>Should people put Premium gas in a Regular car?>>Well, it’s a very good question. One has to look at the driver’s manual. It’s very clearly spelled out if you need or not, a Premium, a Premium fuel.>>Do the companies that you represent, like Shell, Petro Canada, Esso, Husky, do they tell people to put Premium in their cars?>>Absolutely not. Absolutely not!>>Tom: We took this Chevy Cruze to three different gas station chains. And we basically asked that question.I show him video of our test.>>But it costs so much more.How come?>>Yeah, I know,because it’s the best.>>Tom: What did you make of it?>>Well, I mean, it stresses the importance as a driver to make your homework and understand what your car needs. The first attendant offered Regular.>>But why are they selling people a kind of gas that they don’t need?>>Well, again, I mean, when you say it doesn’t need it, the basic requirement for the car is indeed to put Regular gasoline. Companies spend millions of dollars in research to find the best additive, what we call detergents, we put in gasoline, to keep cars running cleaner. If you do try these higher Premium gasolines and you feel that your car is performing better, you might choose to stay with that Premium gasoline.>>Tom: In a regular car that doesn’t–>>Even in a regular car. Absolutely.>>We took this car for a test. It did not perform any better. It did not burn cleaner. It did not get better mileage, putting Premium gas in that car. So, how do you explain that?>>Well, it’s a matter of time, as well. In terms of an engine becoming dirty with deposits in cylinders or in valve, it will not be a matter of days or weeks. This would be over a long period of many months or many years that you will, as a user, decide if this new Premium gasoline you’re putting in your car is indeed giving you a better performance.>>Tom: But I’m surprised to hear you suggest that running Premium gas in a regular car that doesn’t need it will enhance its performance because there are experts around the world, there’s tons of research out there that says the opposite.>>Well, the problem is that, again, you cannot look at it only from an octane point of view, but more with respect to the additive, which are detergents. Now–>>Tom: But every gasoline has detergents in it. Putting more in only means there’s more detergent.>>Yeah, but then, then it’s up to you as a user. You know, like companies are not putting these millions of dollars into research to find this best new additive to put in the Premium formula of gasoline just to… for the fun of it. It is actually–>>Tom: Well, they’re trying to make money.>>Yeah, I mean it is because, obviously it’s not the same formula. What this research on our side is telling us, is that it will keep your engine cleaner with these higher formulation of high-value additives.>>Tom:Seems much of thatresearch is hard to find.We do come across a coupleof Petro-Canada studies,claiming its Premium gascleans your engine betterthan Regular.But neither study measures“SuperClean” againstPetro-Canada’s own Regular gas,which alreadyhas extra detergents.In fact, one study compares“SuperClean” to a gas withno detergents at all.No wonder their “SuperClean”comes out on top.♪ ♪ How can we make a decision when the information is ostensibly skewed because it fits their agenda?>>Yeah, like, I’m not privy to this research, I haven’t looked at the research, I haven’t looked at the details of the numbers that have come out of the research. But I think, at the end of the day, it’s not the research that should decide, its the consumer with the performance they’re getting with their car. Again, no one is forcing anyone to buy this Premium gasoline.>>Tom: But if they’re being misled into thinking it’s doing things it can’t do, then, yeah, they are!>>Yeah, well, then you have to try it.>>Tom:Been there, done that,says Karuna Brandy.>>Now, I’m driving my car knowing it has Premium gas in it, wondering if my emissions are higher than if I was driving my car with Regular gas.>>Tom:After our test results,she’s seen the light.>>Could you fill it with Regular please?>>Sure.>>Tom:One driver makingpeace with the world.>>So, now I have this, like, awakened consciousness about what kind of gas to buy. Thank you, Tino!>>No problem.>>Tom:So, the next time youvisit the Premium pump,you might ask yourself,are you doing your cara favour, or the oil companies?♪ ♪

100 thoughts on “Premium gas vs. regular: What’s really better for your car? (CBC Marketplace)

  1. Drives a Chevy Cruze: yeah use a 87
    Drives a Nissan GTR: Use that 93
    BTW, some cars that use 87 MIGHT get better performance but read your manual about what gas it recommends and if Premium helps.

  2. Emmision test deserves revisiting to proof truely if the addative detergents are actually removing the gunk and why in the test emissions reported more polluted air as it was trying to remove it from engine.

  3. it's a nomenclature mistake : "TOP TIER" =/= "PREMIUM"

    The people have got it wrong in these clips, the detergent/clean issue is a matter of BRAND, not octane. Google "TOP TIER" gasoline for a list of brands that qualify and see the Consumer Reports on why its worth it. You'll find the same reasoning that is incorrectly attributed to "premium" gas by most of these folks. The TOP TIER logo is prominently displayed on the pump or at the station. THIS is what they are actually meaning when they talk of performance and dirt that is nothing to do with octane rating or "premium" fuel.

    Premium fuels are for performance engines/ sports cars that need the bigger bang to meet the higher HP and acceleration demands. If you put lower octane regular gas in an engine designed to use premium fuel, it will misfire and mess with the timing and performance, but higher octane does not improve the specs on a regular engine. My Honda says regular 87 octane is fine, BUT it also specifies that it be a TOP TIER gasoline which means that I spend a few cents more to go to the Chevron, 76, or Shell station instead of Joe Shmoe's Daisy Lube down the block.

    READ YOUR USER MANUAL – THE MANUFACTURER OF YOUR CAR SPECIFIES WHAT OCTANE /GRADE FUEL TO USE. If it says to use premium, use premium. If it says 87 octane is minimum required, use 87. Plus, you might find all kinds of nifty stuff you didn't know about your car, things it can do that are designed for your convenience, and other info that might save you expensive repair later (like how to connect the cables to jump a dead battery properly).

  4. The video is anti-premium, anti-gas company from the go. IT should've just been informative….Such as if you have a regular, non-performance car…..use regular. IF you have a high-performance car, and want the most performance out of your car…use premium gas to keep the performance car's computer from "detuning" or cutting timing, and therefore losing power…which would occur on lower octane fuels.

  5. This is not on the gas stations, how much training do you think their employees get a year? Higher price = better in most peoples mind I would have given the way wrong answer when I was a young kid teen as well, I got into rebuilding cars as a hobby and learned more if you would have asked me not too long ago what octane is I would have said it is more explosive the higher the number, all I can say is well dang I was wrong.

  6. the real question why a country that sits on huge oil reserves have a high price? let me guess stupidity of Canadians that accepts anything

  7. 4.8 vs 5.0 is ~5% better which is as about as it is advertised lol, no one said that premium is 10x better, it doesnt cost 10x more

    octane values:
    regular = 87 octane, premium 91 octane, difference ~5%

    fuel consumption values:
    regular = 5.0, premium = 4.8, difference ~5%

    price values:
    regular = 1.329, premium = 1.469, difference ~10%

    are you being scamed? yeah, on the price alone, you are paying 5% increase with 10% more price so you are fleeced for 5% but the test SHOWED EXACTLY WHAT IS MARKETED, 5% better economy

    tbh, you needed a better test since with this you proved that premium is premium in fuel consumption!

    PS its still not economically feasible since you pay 10% more money for 5% more performance but still… you either do science (ideally only have one variable you are testing) or estimates (get some data that shows general direction of things), this was an estimate. fail.

  8. There are so many different vehicles out there what makes you So sure that premium is not the case maybe for sedans like that it’s not the case but what about SUVs and what about trucks and what about all kinds of other vehicles where is your research for them ?

  9. How was the hp going to drop to maintain the same speed using better fuel
    It will always need 6hp to maintain the same speed as that’s the load the Dyno is placing
    If they did the same test but showed throttle position it would be slightly lower if the car has adaptive knock sensing

  10. I had a Pontiac Grand Prix gtp and it said you had to put premium in it why does the manufacturer Pontiac say that if there is no difference

  11. What's to stop gas stations from putting the same regular gas in all 3 tanks and sell regular gas as a premium gas as a scam to make more money?

  12. I use premium gas in all my gas powered lawn and garden equipment. The ethanol in regular gas begins to breakdown in the fuel in 30 days. And it starts to gum up the engine parts (carburetor, etc.). Since I have been using premium gas in all these small engines I spend a lot less time at the repair shop and have more success in running the equipment. As for the car, if you burn through it fast enough, I find it does't make much difference with my 2006 Mazada. Still burn premium for the new car. The mechanics tell me the engine is very clean even at 96,000 Kms.

  13. Did you drain or replace the fuel pump and filter and fuel lines ALL the way from the tank to the fuel rail? I'm betting you didn't and probably ran regular gas both times.

  14. I highly disagree. Premium fuel on smaller engines reduces rpm on highway driving. Also it accelerates smoother and over prolonged use does reduce deposits in the engine. Plus premium diesel also keeps the injectors cleaner with cetane boost and better quality injector cleaner.

  15. higher octane is for high compression engines or engines with forced induction like a turbo or supercharger. adding premium to a car that requires regular is a waste of money but using regular on a car that requires 91 octane or higher like race fuel will cause the engine to pre detonate because of the lower flash point of the regular gas and can ruin or damage the engine from pre detonation. that is the fuel burning before the Piston reaches top dead center and the explosion from the gas pushing the Piston back down on power stroke of a 4 cycle engine. it is all on education and knowledge of a modern combustible engine.

  16. this is biased. I have a nissan maxima which recommends premium gas and i def notice a difference if i use regular. this guys trying to persuade you to believe what he believes lol

  17. Ironic to watch the Chevy Cruze dyno run with premium. I found in my 2011, premium makes a huge difference, I can fill up and drive almost 150km longer and smoother acceleration. I just choose not to pay 0.15 cents per litre more…

  18. Octane is a measurement of engine knock. Higher octane less chance of knock or ping. Only vehicles that need premium fuel are turbo/supercharged engines or high compression engines. Doesn't do anything for average economy cars

  19. Its a bigger scam than what you would think, especially when you find out that oil is a renewable source, its like the lubricant between the joints created by the planet, between the floating plates, its not "liquidated dinosaurs" , it never was, if you look back this is a marketing ploy to create the idea of scarcity. A few years ago a guy came up with an idea to create better fuel economy in a standard vehicle, (due to how much fuel isn't burnt ) and it saved about 30-40% fuel usage, the fuel companies simply reformulated their fuel, so it would no longer work. Basically, they can produce a better burning fuel, but won't. Now days you can cut your fuel usages simply by adding a hydrogen on demand system, which mixes hydrogen into your air, cuts fuel usage yet again by 40% or more, and they can't "reformulate" to stop it. Now watch how they move into the the "battery" /hydrogen" type vehicles and screw us again in a different way.. this is what you get when you let psychopaths run the planet.

  20. This guy cant decide what to say, he said on the video where the agencies take care of the car and recommend you to change some car components earlier than the owner manual says, that you should listen to the manual, in this video he says dont listen to the manual.

  21. I'VE DONE MY OWN TESTING. The benefits of Premium gas is more noticeable in the winter time when the temps are below 0…..THE "EXTRA" ADDITIVES in premium gas helps your car run better in harsh weather conditions. It also removes winter moisture and water from gas line as well….Also, it depends on the brand….Premium gas at BP is not the same as Shell Premium gas….Different types of Premium gas have different effects…..Ultimately it boils down to WHAT TYPE of car you have….every car is different…..GM cars are engineered to take anything including ethanol so using a GM chevy car for this test is not a smart idea….It's not about octane….It's about additives and how those additives help your brand of car…..I drive Asian cars and I can definitely tell when I have premium….even my wife ask if I had some engine work done and I said no….I told her I bought premium gas.

  22. i clearly feel the acceleration difference in my camry v6. also when i put reguler my car display shows cruising range 480kms and when i put 91 premium it shows 525kms. but I didnt see any differences going above 91. so i am using 91. this video is misleading. who drives a trash chevy cruz. that garbage will break down anyways. so doesnt matter what you put.

  23. but when you put the regular in the corvette your not going to get the same amount of house power as you would if you put premium tank.

  24. In my experiences I believe it made more of a difference in older cars like before 2000, I know for a fact that in my older cars my engine ran better ,started easier especially in the winter time and I got 2 more mpg with super . I use super in my lawnmower and Weed eater and I know I get more power my mower doesn't bog down in high grass with super. But mower and weed eater dont have computers.Back in the day My bike ran like a scalded dog with Ethel ..But I agree that the cars now our more dependent on the computer and the computer does compensate for the type of gas you use.

  25. year after year i see folks make these claims if you honestly think there is no difference then by all means stop using premium youre mechanic will love you , ive torn way to many engines apart to not know the difference whats next synthetic oil is a hoax too

  26. It depends on the car. My turbo car requires premium. If it isn’t required you are just dumb for not listening to the car manual. They aren’t scamming you. You are scamming yourself

  27. Maybe we shouldnt let random tv hosts to review gas related problems, watch project farm for some actual testing. Or understand why race fuel is higher octane. Plus high octane makes some boats run better which debunks this whole video.

  28. This is kinda dumb and yet common sense the engineer has set the car to it's needs In most cases your car is gonna run it's best using what it has been designed to run on

  29. I can explain this as of how it happened. Some companies decided to use different types of engines. Those engines had a focus on specific gas for their cards back in 1989. But that was YEARS ago. Cars now do not need the different variants of gas. When gas tanks are being filled at the gas stations. You can see they are all one type of gas. There are no other tubes being filled.

  30. I drive 160 miles every weekday regular gas lasts 1.5 days the supreme lasts 2.5 days in the vehicle I don’t really see how it is a pollution

  31. What in the world is going on?!?!? Why don’t you preform this test with a forced induction engine ( supercharged / turbocharged ) instead of naturally aspirated vehicle. That corvette is even naturally aspirated ( meaning it doesn’t have a turbo or a supercharger ).

    I drive a naturally aspirated vehicle and I personally use regular 87 octane because that’s what the car was DESIGNED to use. Yes it’s true if i put a premium gas like 91/93 octane gas it won’t make a difference because the computer will compensate and change the engines characteristics to make it run like if it was on 87 octane BUT if I was to retune my car to run on premium gas my car would gain more horsepower and torque, have better gas mileage and run cleaner.

    All I know is that despite my car being designed for 87 regular gas….. I would prefer premium 91-93 octane gas if the price was the same. Just saying……

  32. this is all a bit dumb. Gas stations sell diesel too, that doesn't mean you should just put it in your car because it might be better….

  33. Higher octane gasoline is made for engines that have a higher compression ratio. Higher compression can cause engine knock, AKA engine pinging. This noise is caused by PRE-IGNITION of the fuel in the combustion chamber.

  34. I like this show, but after watching most episodes I am left wishing they had done a more thorough research. In this case, more car varieties and instances when premium gas is better, ethanol in gas, and checking if they really got the gas they thought they were getting, maybe they were testing regular sold as premium.

  35. Well if there’s no difference then why would you put premium in if you’re going to the track?? He contradicts himself with that statement

  36. Hahahaha 89 % cleaner, … they know nothing about those numbers at all. And most people are same. I never buy premium gas for my cars. If the cars ( high end ) designate ( designed) use premium gas, you should use it because the combustion of it different otherwise use regular one. Like racing cars use different gas as regular cars. Don’t waste the money for that except you want to.

  37. I remember seeing this program a few years ago and was surprised when the guy running the CATI shop (Canadian Automotive and Trucking Institute) thought that the car running premium would require LESS HORSEPOWER to do 50 Km/Hr. How silly! Of course he was somewhat surprised that both types of gas – reg. and prem. needed 6.1 HP to keep the car going 50 Km/Hr. IT COULD NOT BE ANYTHING ELSE. The correct question would be what is the amount of gas used over time to maintain that speed or the exact throttle setting to generate the horsepower to maintain the speed. If premium gas makes the car run more efficiently then you would require LESS gas to generate an equivalent amount of power and providing better mileage as a consequence. BUT, you still need 6.1 Horsepower to maintain the 50 Km speed.

    This has bugged me since I first saw the program some years ago so I'm glad to finally get it off my chest.

  38. Sure average cars don’t need premium gas, but for most cars like Audi’s, BMW, Mercedes it’s recommended by the manufacturer… says it on the gas cap

  39. Asking the people at the gad station mught think its better for the car like everyone else did it passes down fron one person to another wouldnt say there miss leading people if thats what they grew up to believe if i was working and someone asked me i would of said ya its better for the car cause thats what i was always told dont mean im just misleading them on purpose

  40. In a high compression motor, high octane works better. Period. Most cars are just fine on low octane. Mileage is surely better using high octane.

  41. Funny, doesn't matter what type of gas you use!!..

    Because, if a person uses the lower end.. it is still in the hose when they are done.

    So when a person uses the higher end, they are getting some of the lower end mixed in!!.. ?

  42. don't they even know what octane means. its very simply the higher the octane the high the flash point. the only benefit with higher octane is if your pulling a heavy load around double the weight of the truck or more. will keep combustion temperatures down and increase your torque. I thought this was taught in high school

  43. In the UK Shell introduced something called "fuelsave" and made untrue claims that people got more MPG with it. The uk advertising standards authority prosecuted them as the claims were untrue. Shell changed the words but still keep the name of fuel save to mislead customers. Here in the uk, all fuel comes from the same refinery so the only thing that is different is branding and prices applied. Everything else stays the same and the car adjusts to what fuel is used.
    It is a massive scam and people conned are embarrassed so claim their car runs better and continue the lie.

  44. Mark is a damn lie about cars today running cleaner. Get a vehicle with GDI and then tell me how dirty your motor gets compared to Direct Injection. He clearly knows nothing about cars and has no business in being a witness in court cases.

  45. Anyone who knows the basics of how engines work could tell you exactly why premium gas exists. Hint: it’s not because it’s actually better fuel haha

  46. I have a 2015 Chevy Cruze 2lt 1.4l turbo, and I notice a difference between unleaded and premium. It runs smoother and has more power, and it's better for my turbocharged engine. That's just been my experience. I notice the biggest difference in the Phoenix summer, cause my car loses A LOT of power when it's 115 out, but premium makes it run closer to what it normally does in nice weather.

  47. This is information skewed by lack of variables, like temperature, towing, vehicle weight, type of driving, age of the engine, altitude, and even turbo charged cars, and mountainous driving. Next time use a middle aged v-8 pick up in 100 degree weather with the ac blasting…then pull a trailer… on hills. Pre detonation in an engine is one of the most destructive things you can have in an engine…so if 2.00 bucks per tank gives me engine longevity i'll pay it.

  48. HIGH OCTANE GASOLINE is more resistant to preignition or detonation for high compression engines ONLY. That's IT! Low octane fuel in a 14:1 super car can go BANG before the spark plug goes SPARK. HIGH octane in an average 9:1 passenger car adds nothing. May even rob horsepower. It is not a scam, it's a gasoline for high performance (high compression) engines.

  49. WHO DO WE TRUST ? says that Yoga Lady . NO BODY. NO BODY. I SAID NO BODY.   ——   We are not Human Yet. We are not Holly persons . We are full of Defects and We are Following people Who are Full of Defects .  Do you believe in Doctors or Mechanics ?—–  The whole world is full of People Completely full of Defects that mean : Unconscious so like that they don't know what the hell the saying or doing or even feeling .

  50. I worked in some gas stations on to management. Gas gives very little profit to the stations. Reg to Supreme is just a hoax as far as I can see.

  51. lol I put 87 in my WRX once to see and car ran like garbage and actually stalled at a couple of lights. To hear that guy say there is no difference in the gas makes me laugh lol.

  52. This test wont provide any different results if you dont run the fuel dry, empty the fuel pump, the lines and the fuel filter that still have the old fuel in them. Then you can run the different fuels and test. What part of scientific testing is this…pseudo science.

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