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100 thoughts on “Do Quakers celebrate Christmas? // Vlogmas 2019 Day 3

  1. Love the season….I celebrate the Solstice….gratitude for the spirit ofancestors who went before and the beauty of the returning light that is within us all. Relatively pagen.

  2. The Christmas card idea is the best! You two are the best ?❤️ your videos are always so nice to watch, gives me such good vibes and feelings! Much needed today.

  3. If there was any religion that I would subscribe to it probably would be paganism or neopaganism, so I do enjoy the pagan elements of Christmas and the winter solstice and all that.

  4. I went to the Unitarian Universalist church when I was a kid, I didn't keep up with it, but it seems to have a LOT in common with Quakerism

  5. Good that you called me out on not subscribing to you! ? I just clicked the button because I've been watching every video of yours while not being subscribed (oops)

  6. As a fairly new Quaker who identifies as Christian I really enjoyed this, and I was making the mince for my pies as I listened ☺

  7. Your videos are so great an informative! I’ve been wanting to go to a quaker church for months but there aren’t really any where I live now, but I’m moving to California so I’m hoping I can find some better faith resources 🙂

  8. In Hebrew the names of the days is literally “first, second, third”. The only exception is Saturday or the Sabbath that comes from the word strike or stop because it’s at this day that you need to stop working and rest.

  9. I went to a Quaker school and always loved the philosophy of everyone being equal and "That of God" or "That of good" in everyone.

  10. I am Jewish and I really wasn’t raised celebrating Christmas but now that I am an adult, I like the pretty lights, the trees and the music, so I do the thing now. I get my Christmas tree, decorate the house, make gifts and a nice kosher meal for my friends.
    Conclusion : Christmas doesn’t have to be a religious event these days as it is mostly a cultural thing these days.

  11. The original quaker calendar is super interisting ! The Jewish/Hebrew calendar also works like that.

    Sunday : yom rishon (first day)
    Monday : yom sheni (second day)
    Tuesday : yom shloshi (third day
    Wednesday : yom revihi (fourth day)
    Thursday : yom h’amishi (fifth day)
    Friday : yol shishi (sixth day)
    Saturday : yom shabbath (shabbos day !

  12. I believe in Jesus and for me Christmas is all about him. ?? But you're right that Christmas technically isn't a Christian feast.

  13. I was wondering wether Quakerism is common in other countrys (for example Germany) because I am from a pretty religious family (also that we know a lot about religions) and I have in fact never heard of it before.

  14. "the third day of the twelve month" is usually how it is said in the arabic. We do have names for the months but none of my relatives really remember them. Also the days of the week go by numbers too, Sunday being the first day. So people don't get confused, the days of the week are the names of the numbers pronounced a bit differently. (The numbers are where the names of the days of the week originate).

  15. Quakerism is so interesting to me! Out of curiosity, does a Quaker perspective of God’ have to be this all knowing and loving actual person (what all the atheists call the guy in the sky I guess??) Or is it more open minded and you can have your own/more abstract view of what God is? It seems like such a lovely community, it generally looks it it wants happiness and equality for everyone❤️

  16. My tought is 'why' Instagram? My head can't handle all different apps.. get stressed out from them all. Maybe give a similar chance here on Youtube? Warm wishes from Sweden 🙂 ?

  17. I think your comment about "not being able to smell your own smell" is interesting because as a Jewish person living in Britain I find that the culture of Christianity (particularly around Christmas but also all year round) is still very pervasive regardless of whether these people are religious/observant Christians or culturally Christian atheists. Perhaps because you celebrate Christmas, you cannot "smell" that. But I do agree that it is disingenuous to try to separate Christmas from its roots in Christianity. Again: even if a person celebrating it is an atheist, they're still culturally Christian. A Jew like myself or a Muslim or any other non-christian whether we're religiously observant or not (you can be an atheistic Jew but that's another discussion), do not celebrate Christmas even though we are surrounded by it in British society.

  18. 'Do Quakers celebrate Christmas?'
    Anyone who knows Jessica's channel: Well this Quaker certainly does, but #notallQuakers

    Oh I'm doing ActionForHappiness Be Kind December, seems like the same type of thing.

  19. I was raised culturally Christian like most people in my country. However most people I know consider themselves to be loosely religious or agnostic. We still celebrate most "Christian" holidays because the holidays and traditions themselves are mostly pagan even if after Christianity came here they got an christian element. To me these holidays are times to spend time with my family and friends and celebrate these bonds.
    I dont like the way that marketing has made chrismas, valentines day (friends day in my country) and halloween (not really celebrated here but because of marketing its become more of a thing) have become so largely consumerist and all about how much money you can spend. I only have very minimalist decorations and I will ask people who I buy presents about items they really need and buy those because I have giving and receiving useless gifts.

  20. As someone who is kinda somewhere in the middle of Paganism and Atheism, Quarkerism sounds very… more spiritual than other monotheistic/Abrahamic religions. I love, love, love all of your videos about Quakerism personally because they're just peaceful and judgement free rather than "this is how it should be!"
    You lot seem to have the same goals as Paganism, tbh, which is equality, peace and all of that. Kindness and caring about your fellow human beings no matter their differences. I mean the love of nature is very important too.

    There is a lot of crossover between Quakerism and Paganism, at least from what I've seen in your videos. Lots of love and light to you and Claudia and the furbabies!

    Edited to add a huge Thank Youuuuuuuu for acknowledging that Christmas and many other "Christian" holidays are pagan in origin!

  21. I really think that Christmas has become a family holiday more than a religious one. At least in Canada, I can’t talk for others. But here, I can’t think of anyone I know that sees Christmas as a religious event. We all celebrate family and spending time together. I think it’s the best part of Christmas!

  22. I really appreciate your history of disability series. The biographies of disabled people and history of abelism and eugenics is not talked about often and your videos are very informative and well put together. The history of eugenics stuff is maybe a bit depressing for decembertime but another biography could be fun 🙂

  23. Thank you for acknowledging my faith kindly and gracefully and not skipping over it like it doesn’t exist. I am pagan and I have grown up with paganism because my mother is one as well…it always hurt my feelings that people act like acknowledging that some traditions are pagan is bad

  24. I was raised Pentecostal, but don’t subscribe to any particular religion. I guess you could say I’m agnostic and my husband is “spiritual”. I don’t mean any offense with the quotations, just not sure how to put it.
    Anyways, we’re not Christians. We do celebrate Christmas though. Mostly because I love the celebration, decoration, and gift giving ( I’m a crafter). Our daughter loves it as well but has no idea about the religious aspects. I guess we continued celebrating just out of habit, but it’s so much fun

  25. I love how you love the pagan parts of Christmas and acknowledge that they are. It made me tear up… thank you .

    Is the collab with Stevie?

  26. I am really not a religious person and fully identify as an atheist, but Quakerism and Paganism both seem very interesting to me.

  27. with religions like Quakerism Im always left confused… what makes it a religion and not a life style? isnt religion defined by the worship of a deity? it was interesting watching this video :3 thanks jessica

  28. Because of your videos i’ve done more research into quakerism and i feel like i’ve found something thats been missing. I’ll be attending my first meeting this sunday. I just want to let you know that your videos have a huge impact on others ?

  29. I very much get what you're saying about it being more popular to reject association with Christian beliefs or even generally religious things, I think it's because of how flawed western Christianity tends to be and how it's so often tied into right wing politics now 🙁 it makes me very sad to see something that's so important to me be watered down and used to hurt people

  30. I am Pagan so can definitely relate to the #NotAll… when discussing my beliefs. I mean, it is my religion and there are many gods and goddesses associated with it, but currently that's not part of my faith (so will have to respectfully disagree that religion doesn't mean you have to have a specific deity).

  31. Given that if the Christ-child did indeed exist, then he was not born on the 25th of December, but sometime in march. The sole reason Christmas is celebrated at that time that it is, is due to the pagan rites of rebirth and renewal associated with the 'death' of the sun on the shortest day of the year and the feasting associated with the defiance of the scarcity of resources.

  32. Does 'God' for Quakerism mean the same idea as in most religions: a guy up above who created the world and knows it all? Or can that vary and only mean 'greater force' ?

  33. Growing up, our Quaker meeting did Christmas plays every year but not usually the nativity. One year, my mom tried to do a First Day School lesson about consensus and we ended up with an Olive the Other Reindeer/Stone Soup/Happy Feet mashup. And we do a Christmas Eve carol sing.

  34. I was brought up in a Christian Presbyterian Church but watching these videos has made me really interested in quakerism! I may have to go visit a church)meeting house I disagree with Presbyterians anti LGBTQ stance and it's driving me away from the branch

  35. I love learning about Quakerism through you. I find it such a beautiful thing. Also, I literally “ooh’ed” our loud when you mentioned gluten free, sugar free mince pie. My husband is diabetic and I have numerous issues, and I’ve been desperately looking for a good GF/SF mince pie recipe!

  36. Quakerism sounds a bit like my Unitarian Universalist church in the US if it had retained a few more of its Christian roots. Many of the central values are the same.

  37. It’s funny you told me to subscribe because I was watching your videos without doing it. You calling me out made me do it. It does work!

  38. Always love your videos about Quakerism. It makes me want to start implementing some of those things in my life. Such a loving group with lovely beliefs. You definitely seem to shine those beliefs all year long tho, you’re such a sweet and kind soul Jessica! So happy that you share your life with us ?

  39. I am in reality, as a life long atheist, celebrating Yule and the pagan fest that that is light, feasting, gathering etc.

  40. Installing christmas tree’s trinkets and wrapping small gifts to be placed under is a popular moment for children. Christmas trees become a symbol of Christmas celebrations and of course a time that is expected by children even for the whole family. Although Christmas Tree is a regular cypress tree full of ornaments but very meaningful to improve the warmth of the family. “I felt the warmth of a family”, and of course the angels are happy to see it from a distance. Welcome to Christmas and New Year.

  41. I dispise religion it just pains me but the more I learn about quakerisum the more my heart melts towards it. Its sounds very humanist with a god (of be interested in knowing what kind of god, cause the Christian god is pure evil so hopefully you guys have your own ideas on that) but nice to hear about a religion thats not full of judgement.

  42. I love learning about different beliefs, thanks so much for sharing and explaining. As a pagan I just love knowledge, and understanding others, it's fills the world with more love x

  43. Interesting to learn about Quakerism. I grew up celebrating Christmas but am pagan. Thank you for pointing out the pagan roots of many Christmas traditions.

  44. I love learning more about Quakerism, and I can really get behind the core values. Jessica is my favourite Youtube Professor.

  45. I'm Catholic and I adore hearing about others religions and how the celebrate the holidays. I also heard many similarities between how you practice quakerism and how I practice my faith (especially with sustainability and spreading peace) which is so comforting ❤️

  46. I have religious trauma, but I like the concept of Quakerism

    It embodies all the good aspects of Christianity without the toxicity of the hierarchy and the judgment of proselytizing

  47. Hahaha totally called out in the beginning for not being subscribed though I’m a regular viewer. I thought I was already, and now I feel ashamed, haha!

  48. When she said “I can see the analytics… you watch my videos often and you haven’t yet subscribed”… ? yeah I clicked that subscribe button quickly

  49. If you want to see a Christmas movie in which the only crying you will be doing during the church scenes will be crying from laughter, check out "While You Were Sleeping." The movie is funny and charming as a whole, and the scenes in churches or hospital chapels are no exception.

  50. what IS your favourite pagan festivity of the december solstice season?


    i enjoy the gift-giving. growing up, i always got annoyed at how gifts were so… rote? my family seemed to see present shopping as a chore & the gifts themselves would be generic objects marketed for the recipient's "demographic" rather than… things the recipient might actually like? or want? or find useful?

    now that i'm older, i enjoy finding small, useful things that make me think of the intended recipient – i remembered the cough a family member always seemed to get, how they had fussed with the collar of their dressing gown to better cover their neck: i found a local crafts vendor & bought a handmade scarf (as well as a simple folding fan because SUMMER IS EVIL).

    i distain things that are SOLELY decorative but i am not actually minimalistic: i find great joy in finding Things That Look Like Other Things because it's a way of gifting something that will ACTUALLY be used and, if expendable in nature, STILL serve as an interesting piece of decor (and thus not be bound for a landfill). furthermore, unwanted gifts always take up so much SPACE but you can never quite "get rid of them" because… gifts. they're physical memories of others' intent, even if those intentions missed you rather significantly, so you end up awkwardly hanging onto them for years until you're "allowed" to regift it to charity or Someone Unrelated To The Original Gifter.

    so, taking over the "christmas shopping" is my way of "celebrating" because, though not religious, i philosophically resemble buddhist &/or quaker practices: celebrating those around me &, if health allows, my immediate environment (via cleaning or tidying it).

    i use this Designated Holiday Period to celebrate those i appreciate by making them smile or laugh via something they wouldn't have "justified" getting for themselves.

    i get annoyed about all the unseasonable-for-my-climate accessories that get spread everywhere because they just… don't consider what IS here and instead attempt to hide or ignore it to favour what ADVERTISING inform us that December is "for". photos with coke-a-cola's Santa Claus, dusty faux snow, pine trees wrapped in electrical wire (THANKFULLY most of the bulbs are solar powered nowadays), Scandinavian fauna, and fireplaces in the peak of summer's heat. ugh.

  51. Calling the days with numbers is not that strange, Portuguese has it (except for Saturday and Sunday), but it's like first, second, etc instead of one, two, etc.

  52. I love this video. Many of my forebears were Quakers–there was at least one, with the unfortunate surname "Dick" who purchased land from William Penn in Pennsylvania for his son so his son could go the the New World and live as Quakers unmolested…so it's really really exciting for me to listen to a contemporary Quaker talk about the religion.

  53. Quakerism sounds like a wonderful religion!
    8:18 did you say "Because I'm a yellow." What does that mean? Is it a color personality? Like, favorite color vs what color you are when you take a color quiz? Just curious! ?? I love you both! And I'm one of those that loves to ask questions, I don't think I ever grew out of my "Why is that?" phase in life hehe! I'm a curious soul! What color is Claudia? Is there a certain way to find out my color?
    Equality, peace and justice wonderful! ?‍ ☮ ⚖ (Huh… my Microsoft laptop doesn't have an "equality" emoji! go figure!)
    Thank you for the wonderful videos this month! I'm enjoying them greatly! ??????

  54. I get that feeling, as a pagan that celebrates the sabbats/wheel of year its so refreshing to get in touch with that spiritual/religious core like you can try everyday but a special moment/day can be recharging

  55. Is quakerism as a whole progressive because if it is I identify with a lot of the beliefs (like I believe in Christianity but since it's mostly conservative I'm wary of calling it that and of other Christians, as a queer person)

  56. I've always considered myself pagan. You know, there's nothing wrong with it, right? The problem is pagans didn't really originally label themselves, so other people labeled them. When someone had a religion that wasn't a major religion in Europe and the US, they were lumped in as pagan by the Church. Now there are so many different forms, it's ridiculous. Some believe in 1 God, some 1 Goddess, some believe in many gods. Generally, it's usually the same 5 tenants/values you said plus a strong love for nature. There are a couple popular forms with actual lore, but I'm just confused on where I stand because I consider my god feminine, I'm very transcendentalist, I meditate, I occasionally go to… churches of 4 different religions… Yeah. I grew up in a Unitarian Christian church, My mom's dad is Catholic, my Aunt is Jewish with a twinge of a LOT of Native American spirituality and beliefs, my other Aunt was Hindu-Buddhist before she died, my dad is Agnostic, and my dad's family is VERY Quaker (without knowing it or ever stating it), I never realized how much they are Quaker until you described it. It's spot on. My first American born ancester was a Quaker in the 1600s. I don't know, I would be thinking I was Quaker the entire time if it wasn't that I spiritually worship Mother Nature… Don't know what to do about that.

  57. Hello Jessica, thank you for making these videos regarding your Quaker faith. I'm wondering if you could tell me what Quakers believe regarding the afterlife? I have watched many of your videos and lots of other videos on YouTube regarding Quakers, and one of the consistent themes I see is the de-emphasis on "chasing" the hereafter and instead focusing on doing Godly works in the real world for the sake of the real world. I saw one person who phrased it something like, the Kingdom of God is not a magical place you go to if you're good, it's the here and now, and it's coming. That is, reality is in the process of becoming the realized Kingdom of God. This is a very interesting perspective, but it raises a few questions: do Quakers believe in an immortal soul? In an afterlife? Perhaps most interestingly, do they believe in hell? I realize you can't speak for all Quakers, but I was interested in learning your perspective on these topics. Thank you for making these videos! They have been very educational for me!

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